if jesus was immaculate, what would his dna and alleles look like?
would he be the spitting image of mary?.
Nobody, he looked like nobody.
IF he was even born and named he would have been normal cross between his mother and father, either one having more dominant features.
A child concieved by a spirit and carried by a virgin? Hocus pocus story stolen from ancient cultures older than christianity.
Oz
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The writing commitee? Not the Governing Body?
I find that more interesting than the sit or not to sit...
oz
jw leaks has updated their "human rights" page with hundreds of pages of documents released, all relating to 19 separate court cases involving jehovah's witnesses conducted through the european court of human rights and also the australian refugee tribunal.. .
the 9 cases that were run through the australian refugee tribunal by the jehovah's witnesses all came from lebanon.. .
one former member of jehovah's witnesses, who advised on a number of refugee and migration cases for jehovah's witnesses and the watchtower bible and tract society of australia, and provided the documents and background information (yet to be published) to jw leaks, stated:.
Here tis: There are DOZENS not 9...
Amazing really...just look under 'refugee tribunal' etc. I found all these by search 'jehovah'. So each refugee case listed has the search word in it somewhere. I came accross this in Feb 2011 when looking for some other dirt...
I don't know if it was a scam or not, or just JWs trying to keep new converts in the country. I have not read every single one so I cannot comment on how many are real and how many are 'scam'.
Oz
jw leaks has updated their "human rights" page with hundreds of pages of documents released, all relating to 19 separate court cases involving jehovah's witnesses conducted through the european court of human rights and also the australian refugee tribunal.. .
the 9 cases that were run through the australian refugee tribunal by the jehovah's witnesses all came from lebanon.. .
one former member of jehovah's witnesses, who advised on a number of refugee and migration cases for jehovah's witnesses and the watchtower bible and tract society of australia, and provided the documents and background information (yet to be published) to jw leaks, stated:.
somewhere i have saved a link to a govt website on supreme court cases in australia that has HEAPS of cases of immigrants trying to stay. All were involved with Jehovah's witnesses and some had Elders speaking on their behalf. The search criteria was jehovah and it found any and all cases with that word.
will try to find it
Oz
http://vimeo.com/50792317 .
i believe that everyone of us, witnesses or not, should take a look at this video.
it's a beautifully done short film/documentary about robert fitzpatrick shot starting on may 1st, 2011 until the 21st of may.
he now feels he was wrong to try and predict the rapture?...
as one bystander said: "no one knows the day or the hour...how many times does that need to be said?"
Truly the world is sick and tired of doomsdayers. How many times do these types get to cry wolf and get off scot free? As far as I am concerned, getting laughed at is getting off easy. His predictions based on Campings figures cost a lot of people a lot of money. All these end time groups and individuals cause people to lose money, health and life. They are scammers, no better than the Nigerians who send me emails telling me they need help to get money out of the country. Just because they beleive their own bullshit still doesn'tmake it OK.
Oz
they argue that we never tire of our food , never tire of sex (except the single resurrected who will be celibate) etc etc, there is so much to see and do.
so we all want to live forever and never die:.
life in paradise -.
Interesting concept really...
spend ones whole real life trying not to enjoy it so you can enjoy an imaginary life later...
Oz
on their website, the soc explains why they are halving the size of the public wt and awake!
magazines:.
and this is the wt only, not the awake!.
By those numbers they were always increasing.
They should look at their history.Boy are they stupid to make such a statement.
nah...they never back check, they just swallow the latest spin...''ooo how wonderful that reducing the magazines will allow them to be printed in more languages!"......
5 years i reckon they will be online 'mags' only or a two page monthly leaflet.
oz
just discovered that the 'new light' regarding the the identity of the 'slave' is not so new.
in the brochure "who are doing jehovah's will today?
", (brought out months before the annual meeting) it clearly states in the first paragraph in section 19 that "jesus would appoint the slave - during the time of the end!!
but the time of end the also began in 1914...or did once upon a time...
oz
so here we are, putting decorations on our first pagan tree and 15 yr old daughter doing her first 'xmas' says..... "so what is xmas all about?........
wtf!
her jw mother and step father get another epic fail.. they have taught the children nothing.
So here we are, putting decorations on our first pagan tree and 15 yr old daughter doing her first 'xmas' says....
"so what IS xmas all about?.......
WTF! Her JW mother and step father get another EPIC FAIL.
They have taught the children NOTHING. It's a god damn miracle the kids learnt to dress themselves. Ok, a bit of an exaggeration but seriously, what self respecting JW parent teaches them nothing about their beliefs and yet expects them to blindly follow? oh...thats how it works isn't it...
Oz scratching head in wonderment...
oz
i have a few questions but first let me lay out what i think i know and please correct me if i'm wrong.. .
there are 'normal' jws and there are elders.
the elders have had a kind of promotion (they way they see it) and have some 'priviliges' and access to publications that 'normal' jws don't.
The pioneer book is not 'secret' like the elders though.
We were told we could share what was in it with regular publishers when we got home from school.
JWs will tell you there are no levels. There are not levels in the sense of ''I am a level 4 JW and you are only a level 2" etc, but they do restrict information in written form till you are deemed spiritualy strong enough to move from 'milk' to 'solid food'.
Still, it makes no difference, most are as dumb as a box of rocks...i was!
Oz
